Selena Gomez gave her first in-depth interview about her breakup songs “Lose You to Love Me” and “Look at Her Now,” both believed to be about Justin Bieber, to Ryan Seacrest on his show this morning. And there, Gomez talked about the lyrics and how she felt recovering from her and Bieber’s final breakup. It was her first time explicitly talking about what she felt last year behind the scenes and how she feels today.
Seacrest asked directly about her “Lose You to Love Me” lyric about her ex moving on from her so quickly (“You turned me down, and now it’s showing / In two months you replaced us / Like it was easy”). In reality, Bieber did start dating Hailey Baldwin, who he married last September, in June 2018, roughly two months after he and Gomez ended things in March/April 2018.
Gomez and Seacrest did not name names. They didn’t need to. Seacrest said, in his and his co-hosts’ opinions, “The two months lyric would be worse for us than going through a breakup, is having to see someone with someone else so fast.”
Gomez agreed with that sentiment, then detailed that she was well, used to it. (In their previous on-off cycles, Bieber also moved on from Gomez to other girls quickly, although he didn’t date any of them as seriously.)
“Yeah, I think you know, I’m really grateful too because I’ve actually experienced that a million times before,” she said. “And that’s the unfortunate part about what I do. So it’s all very real to me, and I’m sure it’s just entertainment for other people, but I just—I think I had become numb to it, and it would be stupid of me if I didn’t acknowledge what I had felt because it would be inauthentic, and that’s everything I claim to be and do [being authentic]. I know there are thousands of people, men and women, who have felt this feeling, and it’s extremely real, and on top of the social media and everything, it doesn’t matter if you’re in my position or if you’re in someone’s because you’re always going to somehow find this negative space. It’s just that’s what—that’s why I have to be careful, and I just have to take steps back and just focus on what I’m doing and no one else.”
Of the other lyrics, including her line “I needed to hate you to love me,” Gomez said they reflect all she went through in private. “I mean it’s all the feelings, right? It’s everything from happy and emotional to just realizing it and being frustrated. I just wanted to validate all of those feelings because they were extremely real to me.”
Seacrest later asked Gomez how she handled people’s reactions to her personal lyrics. That’s when she made it clear how she feels about her and Bieber’s relationship now that she has processed the breakup fully. “I don’t know, Ryan, I just do it,” she said of her decision to release such personal songs. “But I think that’s why I waited this long to kind of express what I felt because I’m—I don’t know. I think that’s the whole point. I’m always going to be honest with people. I’ve never not been. I might not be overly chatty about it all the time, but this is where I’m able to release it. This is where it turns into art.”
“And it actually shocks me,” she continued. “Some of the reaction I feel like shocks me in general because I’ve dealt with this for years now, because everyone writes about something they felt, everyone. And the biggest topic is love and in a way, it’s not something negative. It’s actually something positive that I was able to experience that, as beautiful and ugly as it was. I think it’s beautiful that I’ve been able to turn this into a new chapter.”
Gomez explained that she wrote “Lose You to Love Me” months before its released. “I wrote this song, over a year ago, ‘Lose You to Love Me.’ And it’s like I feel completely different from when I wrote it so it’s such an interesting feeling….it’s also more beautiful for me because I know exactly where I was when I wrote it and how I felt.”
Gomez said she couldn’t have released the song when it was first written. “That wouldn’t happened. It took me a long time to get through it but now it’s fine. I’m smiling. I feel great.”
The Bieber songs are done, she hinted at the end of her interview. “These two songs were me wrapping up a chapter in a pretty little bow,” she said. “And the rest of the album is just all about where I am now and where I’m going so in my opinion, these are great songs, but I’ve saved the best for later.”
You can watch her full interview below: